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Monday, July 18, 2011

"Economic Mud" Robert Gover Financial Astrologer


An Astrological Look at the World's Current Financial Issues... Will we have some real solutions by March, 2015??
"The sidereal v. tropical debate matters, of course, but if we are to apply astrology to real life, planetary angles within our solar system are far more indicative. 

In an attempt to make astrology relevant to real life, I put the emphasis on social problems in need of solutions and planetary angles which, based on past history, promise major changes and/or solutions to such problems.  

Right now, as most astrologers are well aware, we are under a Uranus-Pluto square that hasn't formed since the great depression of the 1930s.  The most vexing social problems in need of solutions are economically based, and arise out of our privatized central banking system.  

The Uranus-Pluto square of the 1930s found Uranus in Aries and Pluto in Cancer. Uranus is again in Aries, but Pluto this time is in Cancer's opposite sign, Capricorn.  History shows that planetary angles and transit-to-natal angles matter much more than the signs the planets occupy.

What is also needed is an accurate analysis of the problems to be solved.  If you have a hidden short in your home's wiring, you may band-aid your obvious electrical problems temporarily, but you won't have a sustainable solution till you find and fix the hidden short.  

The hidden economic problem we now have nationally is interest on the money the federal government has borrowed from the banks of the Federal Reserve.  The Fed is privately owned and operated.  It's no more "federal" than Federal Express. The government is charged interest the same as individuals and companies when they make loans. 

Paying interest on federal government loans now eats up almost half of the federal budget.  Cutting federal spending puts a band aid on that fiscal cancer, but does not cure it.

Most people have the impression that the federal government operates on money raised from taxes. From a limited perspective, this is true.  But almost every dollar in circulation originates as loans made by the bankers of the Fed, and interest must be paid on all this loaned money. That creates an economy increasingly mired in the repayment of interest.  As time goes on, more money must be borrowed from the bankers of the Fed to repay this ever-accumulating interest, which compounds ad infinitum.

Thus, the economy eventually becomes like a car stuck in mud. Revving the engine only sinks the wheels deeper into the mud.  For an accurate analysis of the economic problem that is the mud we are revving the economic engine to pull us out of, see www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs .

Most people assume that if the mass media don't inform them about this monetary problem, it doesn't exist and/or is another conspiracy theory. But the people who own and operate our mass media benefit from the system and are thus not about to assign reporters to research it and write about it.  In that sense, it is a conspiracy.

But there is plenty of information about it online. Google "debt based money" and you'll find some. Google "privatized central banks" and you find more.  And there are movements to change the system afoot in Congress, led by Dennis Kucinich (D Ohio) and Ron Paul ® Texas).  The problem is that only a small minority of people know what the system actually is, how and why it is tremendously harmful, and why it is unsustainable.  

Assuming President Obama and the Republicans arrive at some agreement to keep the federal government operating and not defaulting on its debts, this doomed system will be perpetuated.  Eventually it will self-destruct, for it cannot go on sinking the government into the ever-deepening mud of interest owed.

The solution is to have government issue our money debt free, pay off all the existing Treasury bonds and bills, and henceforth relieve taxpayers of further enriching already rich bankers.  The government will then be free to work for the governed.

But the planets do not make our decisions for us, and by the March Full Moon 2015, no matter who is in the White House and no matter which time you use for the July 4, 1776 birth of the USA, Pluto will be at 15 Capricorn opposition the US Sun at 13 Cancer and square the US Saturn at 15 Libra, while Uranus, flanked by Mars and Venus, will complete a grand cross at 14 Aries. The Full Moon and Chiron will hit the US Mars-Neptune square (indicating another financial crash) and Saturn will oppose the US Uranus in Gemini.

Barack Obama now appears to have put himself in an impossible bind (see http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/obama-economy/presidents-failure ) and Congress is now stocked with ignorant, big-money manipulated tea partiers.  It's hard to see how we get out of the mess the Fed's debt-based money system has put us in without a massive revolution, and/or an unprecedented Uranus-opposite-Saturn surprise.       

Though negative predictions win no popularity contests, I believe we astrologers can make ourselves more valuable by sounding warnings now, rather than allow our fellow humans to be unprepared for 2015. "






3 comments:

  1. Be sure to take the time to view the YOUTUBE Video for an accurate analysis of the past 300 years leading to our current world economics....

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  2. Hi Kathleen,

    Thank you sharing your thoughts on The Astrologers Roundtable.

    I was wondering if you have done research in financial astrology. I am very interest in this topic, can you refer books and authors for a beginner like myself?

    And have you heard of Astrological Investing http://www.astrologicalinvesting.com/html/shop.html#Tbk, what do you think of them?

    Regards, Haochi

    Thank you Haochi for your site recommendations. Robert Gover is my main man for reading about financial astrology. My practice doesn't allow time for this specialty.

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  3. Excellent read and perhaps more chilling (and relevant) today, 23 Dec 2012, than when it was first published in 2011. Thank you for making this available.

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